![]() 06/09/2020 at 00:57 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
I guess I’ll start off with the media, one of the first red flags for, the inability for the mainstream press to call a riot a riot and insistantly using the phrase “peaceful protest” even when the lead image or video has multiple buildings burning in the background.
Now obviously I’m not saying it’s all riots and looting I understand 95% of it really is peaceful protests and you and 95% of the public is capable of understanding that as well. Yet they refuse to call a spade a spade, my biggest bone to pick is the phrase “peaceful protest” itself. It was a phrase I’d basically never heard before this, people in the media would just say “protest”
because a protest is assumed to be peaceful.
Even when shit was popping off in Egypt and Ukraine years ago, they were just reported as “protests” when they were in the peaceful stage because everyone knows a protest is typically peaceful. The incessant use of “peaceful protest” is running into someone in town, asking them what they’re up to and them responding “how just doing my mundane uninteresting errands!” if someone responded with that you’d be suspicious because that’s implied, why would they go out of their way to emphasize it?
Then there’s how far these protest spread. I’m not saying people around the world don’t have a right to be angry about what happened to George Floyd, but where these worldwide protests over that journalist in Saudi Arabia who got
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, China having concentration camps or the protests in Hong Kong, the gas attacks and any other war crimes that were going on in Syria? None of that sparked worldwide protests like one guy getting killed in Minneapolis. The point again isn’t to diminish what happened to Floyd, but don’t you think it’s very suspicious that it’s called all this international outrage of all the shit that’s been going on in the world the past few years?
Not to mention there’s shit like this of potentially a Russian/Ukrainan agent participating supporting the Minneapolis riots.
Listen closely to the women at the 1:00 mark and how she talks the rest of the time.
And then there’s this story of a Ukrainian who’d apparently
changed his name 3 times since coming to the US and got into a shootout with local law enforcement when they tried to pull him over for speeding.
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Now I’m gonna kind of gloss over the next part, but wasn’t it strange how law enforcement and the national guard was handled during all of this? Mayors and Governors withdrawing them from entire sections of cities and the freakout of Trump being a fascist dictator over calling in the national guard and military for large scale protests in riots? I’m not saying there’s no critizism there, but there’s plenty of precedence for the use of National Guard and Active duty military for maintaining order in large riots. Again I’m not saying there’s no valid criticism, but the way journalists and government officals talked about it as if he’s just wanted to run over protestors with tanks was just absurd.
Lastly the BLM movement itself. First I’ll just start off with a video of the leader of the Ferguson protests himself talking about how it’d been high jacked by left wingers using them for ulterior motives.
Anywho. The other day I found a few telegram invite links for BLM groups on twitter,
so I
joined
them just to see what was up and it’s quite shocking to see that a lot of them are
far more radical and have a much broader goal than they lead on publicly
. Unfortunately the ones I joined quickly got deleted because other people were joining to troll them, but here’s a few screenshots I took.
I honestly don’t have a problem that a lot of them are extreme marxist/communists types (there was a lot more mundane comments of people showing they were I didn’t bother to screenshot), but I do have a problem with the fact they’re currently working to achieve more extreme goals than they’re publicly admitting. Every official BLM statement I’ve seen has stated they’re against violence and looting, yet they’re currently trying to gain amnesty for those convicted of violent crime.
This is just kind of a buzzed rambling, so I’ll probably stop it after this, is the seemingly fictious creation of these “Boogaloo Boys” starting off that they didn’t even have a wikipedia page until May 30.
Most of my knowledge of this is anecdotal. But for anyone else who participates at all in gun or survivalist type communities at all, you’ve proabably heard of “boogaloo” which is a catch all term for “when SHTF” referring to anything from zombies, natural disasters, to widespread political violence. Now in the era of Trump these hypothetical scenarios did lean more towards what to do in case of political violence given overall increased political tensions, but the key is all of the talk around this was
reaction
to events, not
instigating
them. Yet the media paints a picture it’s this group of radicals waiting for their chance to overthrow the government, which if true they’re morons because they just missed the best opportunity of a lifetime.
If I’d done this earlier in the day I’d go into more detail and provide more links, but I encourage y’all to read what’s written about them. My main point is these are literally the same people who for years have half-seriously planned for the apocalypse, natural disasters, etc. But all of a sudden since the end of January/Beginning of February (Most weren’t written till end of May, but the earliest ones are from this time frame), now they’re being painted as this extremist organization that wants to overthrow the government, even though literally the only evidence is fucking memes on social media.
Quickly I’ll just touch on one article about three people arrested in Las Vegas.
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So three people are arrested who have terrorists plans and the only evidence that they’re part some larger organization is the use of a years old internet meme?
Again, I’m not saying these are the only violent extremists that use the “boogaloo meme”. But it seems like there’s an irresponsible amount of fear mongering and deceit in painting it as this large extremist group with the intent of over throwing the government.
Anyway I obviously don’t have good answers to a lot of this stuff, but I just can’t help but feel like there’s 110% some Deus Ex level shit going on right now. Thank you for reading my barely
comprehensible
ramblings.
![]() 06/09/2020 at 01:12 |
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Wow. Wow.
Not gonna pick it apart, so I’ll just add this. Yeah, it’s a conspiracy, and someone might want it:
Wow
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the voices in my head have been saying this all along, unless I put my foil hat on...
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Your response is more eloquent than what I was coming up with so I closed the reply. But yeah - wow...
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You know, I have also found it funny that my state’s capital can be taken over by people with guns and yet it is still called a “peaceful protest” - https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/01/849017021/protestors-swarm-michigan-capitol-amid-showdown-over-governors-emergency-powers
But when a bunch of people sit down with signs about abuse of government power, a riot “breaks out” and we need to call the national guard..... Hmmmmm.... really makes one think.....
![]() 06/09/2020 at 03:45 |
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You know that if you indiscriminately read too much into something in the search for a conspiracy then you risk indiscriminately befuddling your powers of judgement when you don’t definitively find one...
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I didn’t get into
it
thinking it was a conspiracy, it was just so much of the various conflicts around it all seem artificially created or exaggerated. The more I learn about all this the more I think the real powers that are fighting are beyond the typical black/racist democrat/republican US/Russia stuff.
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Long read...
At this point I don’t think it can be pegged down. With regards to the recent looting and vandalism we have any spectrum of antifa, general shit disturbers/criminals, neo nazi and any number of potential false flag operations between them to either cover or promote whatever agenda or idealism they fantasize.
In terms of
the actual movements Chaz while not exactly the most presentable person
does have some valid points on potential movement infiltration,
acquisition and subsequent transformation if the moment gains majority
social influence. It becomes a target for directing mass public opinion
in a society hell bent on call-out and virtuous culture. The sad fact is
that it’s actually inevitable when the movement becomes huge.
I’m going to hark back to one of my comments on here at the start of last month (at the time it was in regards to Covid). - The USA is a great country but it’s really a travesty that you guys are constantly battling one another instead of bonding together to solve issues. -
I believe that something needs to be done about the state of your police but realistically that’s just one piece in a scattered puzzle. I’d be as bold to offer up another piece that I feel should be addressed asap; your mainstream media. It’s time for the talking heads to be reduced to whispers. Your news isn’t so much reporting as it is sensationalized vectors orchestrating people against one another. Red vs. Blue, White vs. Black, City vs. Town, Isolate vs. Freedom, Cop vs. Citz, What battle is it going to be next month guys?
Lastly, I know ACAB is growing but don’t let it
consume you opponaughts
. I’ve seen all the appalling treatment under curfew and I agree that it’s sickening to watch. My only insight into
the situations
are
from previous military service. I know what it’s like to function on severe sleep deprivation but jacked on adrenaline; you become inhuman. I forgot such simple things (and witnessed others too). I lost compassion. I’ve taken that first shot under heavy contemplation knowing that it will break all hell loose. I tried to support
a fellow service member in between getting
reamed out for poor
drill in boot camp
and he tried to kill himself an hour later. I say this
not as an excuse, only
insight into why those seemingly irrational
events have
happened,
and how bad calls are made even when trying to do good
.
I’m not a police officer because I don’t think I could do the vast majority required of the job.
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Alternatively...there are no ‘ real’ powers. Just a shitload of opinions on the internet.
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“ Most of my knowledge of this is anecdotal ”
So true, so so true.
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i would consider caution with the phrase “calling a spade a spade” especially if you are trying to make a point about race. while the phrase has been around for a long time, generally meaning tell it like it is, where i grew up in NY , it meant something very different. Spade was another term for a black person that was only a level or 2 above the Nword.
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Good lord. That phrase dates back to ancient Greek/Latin. It has zero to do with race.
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maybe not for you, but it sure does for a lot of other people.
![]() 06/09/2020 at 09:23 |
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Agree with the general theme here. I wouldn’t be shocked if both the virus and the civil unrest in the US are / were part of some sort of elaborate ruse to weaken the US (and Trump). He’s disrupted things both domestically and internationally, and pissed off a lot of people in the process.
Just wait until all 4 of the MN cops are deemed innocent at their trials . I betcha it happens right around election time. Possibly around the same time that the 2 rednecks in GA are also deemed innocent. Also right around the time it starts getting cold again, and more old people start dropping from the virus.
BRB going to make a few spare hats:
![]() 06/09/2020 at 09:37 |
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It sounds like you’ve done very little to inform yourself over the last fifteen years or so, and now you’ve begun watching the news and spending too much time on the internet.
Maybe just go outside and talk to people. I’ve been handing out water at our protests since last week. I’ve talked with lots of people, including cops. My brother was at an actual riot, reporting on it over a week ago (it was mostly rich high schoolers and some Youtubers).
There is no conspiracy, and plenty of news outlets call riots, riots, and there was always been violent and peaceful protests. There’s also a difference between a riot and a protest (whether it be peaceful or violent).
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You can’t just take something that is centuries old and imagine that it means something completely different than what it actually means, then say your imaginary meaning makes people who use the phrase racist.
Look, I get not using the word “niggardly” even though that also has zero to do with race. It sounds way too much like a word no one should use and there is no reason to use it unless someone is clueless or just trying to be provocative. But calling a spade a spade has zero, nada, nothing, zilch to do with race. Are we going to change the name of the digging implement as well?
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BRB, putting this on a t-shirt..
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Well I’m sorry I haven’t been able to take off and travel around the country to fully investigate stuff.